Remi-le-Oduen 2025-03-16 13:09:47

Life exists for the sake of life, to make it more complicated and advanced.

Dungeonation 2025-03-16 13:18:14

If we can't control what we don't know, it frees us up to just enjoy life

Remi-le-Oduen 2025-03-16 13:22:14

@TheBestBroster
To prevent decay, entropy and fading into nothing

Eldritchsaxes 2025-03-16 13:22:54

It’s different for everybody but you have to find your own meaning in your life, that purpose and meaning is different for everybody. It takes time and it can often make you think nothing has meaning but it does. Make life enjoyable for yourself and find your own purpose that will in the end bring you happiness and satisfaction with your own existence.

handofdog 2025-03-16 13:27:31

If you ask "why live?", then I ask "why die"?

healcaster 2025-03-16 13:40:17

i used to struggle with this sort of thing (and still do to an extent), but i think the idea is to take it as you want. there's a whole bunch of things you can do and you don't need a reason to do them. if you like drawing then draw. if you like exploring then explore. there is no point and that is what's beautiful about it

Tadpo 2025-03-16 13:47:53

I hope things get better for you. For me and my experience with depression and anxiety, I try to focus on the memory, no matter how faint and distant they may be sometimes of joy. It's not easy and I wish you the best as no one deserves to go through such a struggle. You aren't alone with thoughts like that and you aren't a monster for having them.

ericoliZZ 2025-03-16 14:09:06

the reason it doesnt makes me depressed is that since there isnt something telling me what the meaning is, i can just give my own meaning and do what makes me happy
i feel like you are mistaken when you think that people "just live life without thinking"
everybody struggles all the time in ways they dont show, and life is pretty damn hard for most people
sometimes i dont feel up to it and i dont want to exercise my purpose, and i feel like im slowing down, but thats okay too. you dont need to be always on the grind all the time and even when you feel like you are fading away, you are still alive and you can always eventually pick yourself up again
wishing the best for you

BrandyBuizel 2025-03-16 14:14:45

There's nothing I can say in the allotted character space that'll properly debate one of life's greatest mysteries. It's a conversation. It's also one we take all of our lives to discuss and flip-flop through the decades during the highs and lows and incredibly lows.

You can say "remember the good times?" and propose that good times will happen again; you can try to find solace in the joy of daily activities and give your life meaning day to day, but what about a streak of bad days? You can argue life is about the journey or experiences, or the time you spend with the people around you which will only further fuel the depression of those that feel isolated.

There's thousands of reasons to live and thousands of reasons to die and doing either is a lot of work for a lazy person like me. Life is effort, but so is killing yourself. If you died "it would make people sad" or so they say, but isn't it selfish for your friends and family to want you alive even while you're loudly drowning as they look away? You could move away and start completely fresh if you really wanted to, but what about the parts you don't want to leave behind? I'm not also gonna propose discussing the meaning of life is in itself the purpose because while that is something that does occur over the course of our life that answer is kind of a copout. I mean, we eat every day our whole lives and drink water to survive, so is our purpose to eat and drink?

Everyone has their own reason for living and it's okay that the reasons will change over time. Sometimes life really sucks, we all know it, and often for no good reason. If you're not a theologian you probably have to accept the idea that life happens by accident and there is no greater purpose... but "purpose" and "meaning" are entirely different ideas. When I'm feeling existential dread it's because I'm actually in between my old and my new reason to live in retrospect. There was a point in time I was content just waking up in the morning and cooking a croque monsieur for breakfast. Now I look forward to when my friends get off work and I can spend time with them before returning to my miserable, lonely apartment.

Mood stabilizers and anti-depressants can help. Therapy helps. Professional help is good, but therapy also happens outside your one-hour-a-week session: it happens with your friends and social interactions. You're right to feel like life is meaningless and why can't I just die already, but a combination of drugs that work for me have numbed that rhetoric. I'm not numb to the idea and blissfully unaware of the concept, but having the right chemicals swimming around in my brain made me realize the answer to "what's the point of life" doesn't matter as much as I felt like it did.

Maybe you'll tell me to buzz off, and sorry in advance for having to read all this, but you're right. Life does need a point. You just gotta be lucky enough to find a new one every once in a while.

TheShokBlok 2025-03-16 14:45:51

"EVERYTHING NEEDS A POINT. Otherwise why do you do it?"

To do whatever you can with this one and only opportunity at life that you get, life doesn't have a meaning, therefore, you can give it whatever meaning you want.

You should live because you can.

Placeholder456 2025-03-16 14:49:22

gotta agree with ya... life sucks sometimes. :(

ZenonRetna 2025-03-16 15:41:24

Uh oh. Did I tip you off? I didn’t mean to…

EmsDeLaRoZ 2025-03-16 16:43:33

Life is and has always been meaningless, but if we happened to have a reason to exist before being born, it would somehow mean we have an assigned task and nothing else for life (like machines). Having a meaningless life is as bad as having a predefined meaning for it, and the best way to overcome that problem is to give your own meaning that allows you to be good and live happy, that's why people have faith in different religions and focus in different objectives for life in general. It's not about finding a meaning, it's about finding peace with all of that

BrandyBuizel 2025-03-16 17:11:48

@TheBestBroster there is no problem with venting online in your own personal space that people can engage with. Doing this right now is healthier than bottling it as long as you don't bring it everywhere you go. Sometimes it takes a while to find a therapist you click with or get insurance going or even figuring out which drugs you respond well to taking.

Sometimes it feels like the people who care about us are throwing out a life preserver in the middle of the ocean. Even if we grab on and they've "done their part" we're still treading water in the ocean: our feet can't kick forever, we don't know where the shore is, and it'd be much easier to drown instead of holding on to the life saver doughnut floating aimlessly. What we really need is a boat to come by and pick us up so we can stand up or sit down while someone else brings us back to land.

But that's a lot of effort, and sometimes we don't realize those people tossing us a lifeline are stranded in the ocean too. A boat would be really nice for all of us, but we might as well keep a dialogue while we're all stranded out here(to varying degrees).

Divin3Dork 2025-03-16 17:20:30

Bruh why the fuck are you so edgy? What is wrong with YOU? Read some Albert Camus or Sartre and stop fucking cussing everyone around, we are not the ones who makes you suffer. Just stop being a jerk and get some help.

Divin3Dork 2025-03-16 17:23:59

@TheBestBroster That's okay, just keep it up chad. We all are or were in this place. I might be an asshole as well, so I apologize too.

Divin3Dork 2025-03-16 17:26:26

Also you are a great artist so why it isn't the meaning of your life already?

Nitgo 2025-03-16 17:31:30

: "But why?"
@Remi-le-Oduen @TheBestBroster very silly question, do you not want better healthcare, flying cars, advanced nano tech? Anyway lad, there's no meaning to life other than what you give it, and any answer you find will always have an underlying suspicion. Just live with it, and you'll find out that the meaning of life is less important than you think.

ShangXian 2025-03-16 18:50:29

I am very sorry to read the suffering you are experiencing, really. I see this post as a continuation of the thread you made and I take the opportunity to expand a bit better what I wanted to say with my laconic comment especially because I thought the thread was more about hearing other people' views than a cry for help like I then understood the more I read the thread and now this post. There is nothing wrong in venting first because bottling up emotions is a maladaptive coping mechanisms that will gradually erose your mind, second when there are ears ready to listen and hearts willing to offer even a bit of emotional support, venting becomes a tool to sublime the inner pain we carry inside. And from the comments I read here I see many people with open ears and hearts.

Sorry if the message will be long, sadly I tend to write long ass comments, reviews etc.

Anyway when I said that a reason to live is because I have things to pursue is linked to two very basic elements that give my life a meaning, although I am aware that life doesn't have an objective, measurable meaning, we are the ones who give meaning to life:

-knowledge
-helping others

With knowledge I can help others, and helping others enriches my mind and life experience. The fact I volunteered as Red Cross volunteer enhanced this even more, I plan to get back once I'm done with University. During my shifts I encountered people who had experienced similar pains like the ones you are going through right now, even if I am not a professional I've noticed that a look direct to the eye, a talk, even holding hand helped them to ease a bit their inner pain. So a personal advice I feel to give you while searching for a professional is to surround yourself of positive people.

And this links to the third element that gives me a reason to live and that I didn't mentioned in the thread: good, kind-hearted, empathic people. A personal motto of mine is "never trust 75% of people in the world", but that remaining 25% is the reason that gives me the strength to go on, to keep fighting. Knowing that in the world there are good, extremely fantastic people, and trust me I've met many of them in my personal life both irl and online, is enough to keep my head raised up and go forward.

Why I mentioned this? Because if you surround of positive people (and this means select people, even the professionals you will meet, remember: few but good), of a healthy social net, you will be able to take those blows better, and maybe over time you will develop strategies to resist them more and more. It will be long, tough and you will keep experiencing ups and downs, but with good people around you, a solid, empathic professional environment I think you will get through this.

Another element that give me the tools to see life through different lenses and approach it in a more serene way is paradoxically confronting with the thought of death since I was little, and in these recent years, with my own death (probably because I'm getting older). In a way, under this aspect, I embrace Heidegger's view of death. Death is not an abstract concept to be avoided like sadly society does, or Das Man if we want to use Heidegger's words.

My existence is temporal, meaning I live in the tension between our past, present, and future. This temporal nature creates a horizon within which people make sense of their lives, guiding actions, decisions, and aspirations. Death, according to Heidegger, is a fundamental part of this temporal existence and offers the ultimate horizon against which life gains meaning. For Heidegger, living authentically means recognizing and accepting our finite nature. Authenticity involves confronting the reality of death rather than avoiding or denying it. When we acknowledge our mortality, we are better equipped to make choices that reflect our true selves, rather than conforming to societal expectations or distractions. Death, in this sense, serves as a clarifying force, stripping away superficial concerns and compelling us to focus on what truly matters. This fits in a good part well with my Buddhist background, where death can be used as a meditational tool to embrace the impermanence of life and its finitude and avoid getting distracted by superficial stuff.

I know I'm just a stranger on Internet, and definitely not a professional. Mine was simply a shared thought. Best of luck for everything, really!

MimpTableToss 2025-03-16 19:33:10

I feel like most users in the comments answered your questions better than I feel I ever could hehe.

All I'll say is that you have every right to speak your mind on life, existence, meaning, purpose and how everyone seems to handle it. Society at large seems like this huge body of robots copying one another and being "NPCs", but I'm sure each and everyone of us that makes up society, really are just humans trying to survive. And what better way to do that than to fit in, be seen, and belong, but even that instinct can result in us losing a sence of who we really are.

I think a balance of respecting others while being true to yourself is the right way to live (for me at least). And I couldn't emphasize enough how important freedom of speech is. Without it, we would just suffocate by norms, expectations, and standards. Why the hell should I and anyone else to be in charge of your line of thought and natural feelings? I think it's rather inhuman to not at all question your existence. A more clear and understandable existence makes it easier to live through. I don't know if this is helpful for you in any way, but if it so then that's cool. I'm happy to help man.

I'm kinda worried about your sudden news (no need to worry about me though. This is just how I and I'm sure most of us feel and we that we really care about you.) How are you holding up at the moment? Feel free to let us know anytime. No pressure.